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Well, hello, everybody. Welcome to the Clinician Researcher Podcast. I'm your host, Toyosi
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Onwuemene. What a pleasure it is to be talking with you today. Thank you so much for tuning
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in. I'm excited about today's topic. I'm talking about mastering your email inbox.
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Yes, that's mastering your email inbox. And I know that this is a topic that so many people
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talk about, but I want to give you a fresh perspective on mastering your email inbox
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that I think you're going to enjoy. And I'm going to share some insights about things
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that have worked for me. And I hope that you will also do the same for me and share some
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insights about what has worked for you. One of the things that I think is important to
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note is that if you're in a master email inbox, you actually do need to be intentional
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about email. And so this this episode is really to help you think intentionally and strategically
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about how you use your email inbox to your advantage and remove any disadvantages that
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your email inbox may have for you. Yes, I talked about being strategic and intentional
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to use the advantages and disadvantages of your email inbox to your to your benefit.
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So I want to first of all start by telling you that did you know that the average American
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receives 120 emails a day? Oh, yes, 120 emails a day. That is a minimum of 10 emails per
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hour. If you are considering a 12 day work week of many academics. And if you decided
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that it is, you know, an eight day work week, and it very well could be for you. That's
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about 30 to 40 emails, right? Is that is that? Right now I have to do the math because I'm
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like, wait a minute, how much is 100? I don't I don't know. This is the wrong time for me
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to be doing math. But that's a lot of email. That's a lot of email. So the average person
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receives a lot of email, email messages day. And if you are just like, okay, I'm just going
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to open my email inbox and just let the emails flow in. It's a lot of emails flowing in when
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you're supposed to be doing deep work. Okay, so how do we think about our email inboxes?
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So the first thing I want to share with you, the very first thing I want to share with
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you is that it is important for you to recognize how you create value. This is important. This
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is like the overarching thing that you really have to recognize about your, your your life,
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right? Is how do you create value? How do you create value at work? Right? You work
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for somebody or you may work for yourself. As a researcher, you work to build your research
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program and they're their funders who pay you, right? So you have people who expect
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something from you because of money they give you. And so for your employer, as a clinician,
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they expect that you're going to do some clinical care, create value in the clinical space,
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and they pay you for that clinical care. Or in your research program, you have funders
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and maybe it's your institution that's funding you part of the way, or maybe it's the NIH
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that's funding you, or maybe it's a foundation sponsor, or maybe it's an industry sponsor.
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They have an expectation that, hey, we are remitting money to your institution on a regular
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basis, we have an expectation for what you create. And so that's important for you to
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recognize that in the space in which you work, there was a certain amount of value that's
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expected. You may not think about it very much and you may just be like, well, I just
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do my work, I get paid and you do. But let me tell you that if you stop creating in the
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area for which your people say you have, you're creating value for them, for example, let's
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say you don't see patients for a year, you will hear about it because somebody will say,
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hey, hey, hey, I think this person's supposed to be creating value this way. And I don't
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see, I don't see the receipts, I don't see the benefits. And so you'll hear about it.
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But you do your work because you're an amazing physician, you work so hard. In fact, you
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probably do more than you're supposed to. And you probably do a lot of things that don't
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create value as much as you do things that create value. But it is important for you
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to recognize how you create value. Maybe the shorthand for that is how do you make money?
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And if it's through grants and funded sponsored projects, it's through creating value through
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your research. And so you know that moving your research forward and communicating the
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value of your research is how you create value. And partly for some of us and actually for
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most of us, it may be more clinical than research. Creating value is what we do in taking care
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of patients. More specifically, you make money when you see a patient in close chart that
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generates a bill. And so those are the things that create value for your organization. So
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it's really important to recognize that. That email is not the primary reason by I mean,
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it's not the primary vehicle by which we create value. And you knew that I didn't have to
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tell you that. But the reason it's important is to recognize that your email inbox is a
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tool to support your value creation. I want to say that one more time. Your email inbox
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is a tool to support value creation. It is a tool and it's got to support you. If for
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whatever reason your email inbox becomes a competitor of your ability to create value,
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or it's a detractor from your ability to create value, then it's no longer supporting you
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and it becomes the enemy. But the email inbox is neutral. It is not, it's not out to get
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you and it's not out to sabotage you, right? It's also not really out to help you either.
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It's just neutral. It's just like, Hey, I'm just the space virtually where I collect these
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signals that become emails in your inbox that you can read. I'm very neutral here. I just,
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I'm just here. I exist whether you exist or not. And, and it's a neutral, it's a neutral
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thing. So it's a tool. And how do we use this tool to our advantage? And I think the first
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thing is to recognize how you create value. And because you recognize how you create value,
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you put everything else in perspective. If this is the way I create value through my
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scholarship, then everything else kind of takes a backseat to creating value through
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my scholarship. So creating value through my scholarships, number one. And then if you
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create value clinically, it's like, okay, well, creating value through taking care of
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patients in the, in a way that I can see them and close a chart that generates a bill. That's
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another way that you create value. Now, you may say that I'm kind of just, you know, boiling
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it down to its, to its barest bones. And yes, you do a lot more than just see a patient
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and bill. I recognize that. But what I'm saying is recognize that in everything you do, if
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you take great care of patients and bills are not generated, it is a problem. And you
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may not think it's a problem, but I want to, I want to invite you to try it for a month,
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right? See patients don't generate a bill, close the chart. And I mean, you're not going
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to do that. It's just built into what you do. Closing charts is built into what you
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do. And when people are sending you emails and say, Hey, the charts not closed, it's
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because they know closing the chart generates the bill. But anyway, I just want to help
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you recognize and you already do, but it's important to say, this is the way I create
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value at work. If I think about what are my highest priorities at work, then it's got
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to be the value you create through your scholarship and the value you create through your clinical
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work. Now I want to talk about the value create through education. Now, if you're in an academic
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medical center, you teach, right? You, you have fellows in your clinic or you have residents,
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you have med students, so you are creating value through education. But if nobody's paying
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you to create that value, then education is going to be number three. If you're kind of
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going to think about what are your top three things by which you create value. Now, maybe
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you have administrative work as part of the value you create. Somebody pays you for a
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named medical director role before a named administrative role. Then yes, it's got to
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come in your top three. But, but I want you to recognize that if you're paid for it, then
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it should be part of the things that you recognize as the value of creating for your organization.
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If you're not paid for it, doesn't mean you're not creating value for your organization,
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but your organization is telling you that they don't recognize that value you create.
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And so if education is a big part of what you're doing, and it's so important to you,
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and you feel like it really should be in the top three of your value creation, you even
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think it should be number one, then I want to challenge you and I want to invite you
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to talk to talk to your senior director or your division director, maybe your chair about
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how it can actually be a named, named activity for which values created say, Hey, I'm going
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to get money for this activity that I do. Right. And I think it's important. And if
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you don't get money for it, I'm not saying it's not valuable. I'm just telling you that
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your institution does not value it enough to give you money for it. And, and it's an
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opportunity to create conversation around how do I, how do I get that? How do I, how
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do I get it recognized that I'm doing this work? Anyway, all right, that feels like a
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digression. But anyway, I wanted to say all that to say that when you recognize the value
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you create, it helps you put your email inbox in perspective, and in using it as a tool
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to support the value you create, but also not allowing it to distract you from creating
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value. Okay, that's number one. Number two kind of flows from the first. And it's really
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if you recognize the value you create, if you recognize that you are paid to, you know,
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to, to move research forward, to answer important questions for your funders, then you recognize
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that there are very few activities you do in your day to day, that actually move that
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value creation process forward. If clinical care is one of the pieces of the value you
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create, and that will depend now on your split, right, whether it's an 80 20 roll or 70 30,
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whatever it is, 50 50, recognize that the 20% is really the activities you do that move
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that value creation process forward. So for example, I do mostly research. And so, you
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know, the funders are giving me money to create value through my research. And so my writing
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is so important, right, doing the research, and writing about it or communicating my science,
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whether that is through submitted manuscripts, or communicating to future funders, or communicating
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to the scientific public about my work, that is value that I created my research program.
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And so it becomes really important for me to prioritize that, how do I prioritize that,
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it means I start the day with at least 30 minutes of writing, I usually do 90 minutes
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as like a first start to my day, I'm like, I've done this 90 minutes, I've moved this
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manuscript project forward, I've created that value already, right, the day starts
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with value creation. And so that's mastering my my 20% in the value I create it through
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my research. Okay, I also create value through my clinical care. For me, that's rounding
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on the consult service, I finished the value creation of my research in the morning, and
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then I go round on the consult service in the afternoon, I make sure we see patients
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and I sign the notes, and I close the chart, to the extent to which you can close the chart
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in the inpatient setting, you don't really close the chart, but you sign the note, and
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then you bill, and then you've created value through your clinical work. Now, somebody
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will call and say, hey, we have a multidisciplinary meeting coming up, and we want all the specialists
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to be there. I will tell you that while that is very important and absolutely critical
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to moving patient care forward, that multidisciplinary meeting, I will ask myself, do I need to
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be there? Right? Is my presence there? Absolutely necessary? Or is there somebody else who can
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represent me? Because I recognize that multidisciplinary meeting as a meeting that does not create
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value for more organization from the perspective of patients seeing chart closed. Okay, now
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I'm not trying to be reductionist about this, but I'm just letting you know how it shapes
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the way I think about my 20% in each of these areas. Or somebody calls me and says, hey,
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the prior authorization needs to be called in by a physician. I start to laugh actually,
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because I'm like, oh, it does need to be called in, but not by me. Who can do this? Who can
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do this for me? Because the time I spend on the phone, 20, 30, 40 minutes is not value
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created for my organization. Now, is it value created for the patient? Absolutely. Somebody
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needs to create that value, but it's not me. And the reason it's not me is because it's
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not part of the things that are on my job description for which I am paid, right? It's
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not. And I know this may be controversial, but I'm saying that if you are the one calling
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all your prior authorizations, it is time to have a conversation with somebody who is
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in charge of maybe your division or your department, because you have to understand that the things
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for which you are not paid are things that the institution is explicitly saying to you
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that they don't value. And if they value it, and they need to find a way to enhance or
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to document that value by paying you for it. Okay, I feel like I'm going in a different
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direction, but I just want to share that. So we haven't even gotten to email yet, right?
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The reason we haven't gotten to email first is just to recognize that email is not number
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one, and it's not number two. Number one is recognizing the value you create. Number two
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is maximizing your 20%. So the reason that maximizing your 20% is important is because
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before you ever get to your email inbox any day, create value first. Create value in the
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things for which you are paid, period. Create value first. And the moment you've created
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value, and whether that is that you've closed charts, or that you have taken care of your
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research investment, then once you've created that value, then your email inbox can possibly
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come to the fore, right? It's a tool for communication. It kind of is part of the value creation
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process. It's not the most important piece of the value creation process. And so I'm
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inviting you to recognize your value and create the value any given day, create value first,
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and then go to your email inbox. Now, that moves us to number three. Inherent in what
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I said in points one and two, right? Inherent in those two things is that your email inbox
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is probably not a place you should be in first thing in the morning. Now, I want to just
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put a caveat to that and say that I am in my email inbox sometimes, maybe at 7am. And
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that's because honestly, by 7am, I've done, I've done, I'm going to say it, I'm going
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to confess that I've done 90 minutes of writing by 7am. Yes, I get up early. I'm an early
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riser. I'm a big morning person. I'm very huge morning person. So I wake up early and
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I get writing done early in the morning before I start to run around and do things and chase
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kids. I do that. And so sometimes at 7am, I am in the email inbox and I'm in my email
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inbox because I've created value already. I'm like, I can be here now because I've created
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value. So I'm not saying that you can't do email in the morning. There's no can't. There's
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only just you making things work for you. But I am saying that until you've created value,
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I think you should reconsider whether you should be in your email inbox or not. One
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of the ways I get around this is that sometimes I'm doing email at the end of the day and
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I will schedule emails for the morning. And I'm so glad that Outlook lets me do that.
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That's my work email provider. You may have a different provider, but I'll schedule emails
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to arrive in the morning. I'll sometimes clear up my inbox at the end of the day and scheduling
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emails to arrive in the morning. So I feel like my morning email work has been done.
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emails have been sent out in the morning. Great. Now I feel like I have I have at least
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hours in the day before I ever have to go to my inbox because I'm waiting for those
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responses. I know they're coming because I scheduled these emails to happen in the morning
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and I'm going to come back to those responses probably midday as my first time to touch
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email. Okay, so anyway, so I'm saying again, that you got to limit the space for your email.
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This is point number three. And in limiting the space for your email, you are defining
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when you go to your email inbox. Now for me, that's not like a specific time of day. Like
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I only check my email at 11 and 12pm or something. I don't do that. I really do say until I've
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done this work, I'm not looking my email inbox. And if there's you know, is a certain
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email I'm expecting or I have a certain feeling about, you know, things that are in my inbox,
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you know, sometimes they can be anxiety related to like, is there something important that
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I'm missing that I'm not responding to? But yes, that anxiety, if it's present, I've
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kind of worked against it, I no longer allow my email inbox to drive anxiety. But if that
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anxiety is present, then it really drives the value creation process because it's like
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I'm not checking email until I've created value, I'm not going to do it. And so if I
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really am anxious to check my inbox, and I better be anxious to create value first, and
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then I can check my inbox. And so that's that's how I want you to think about limiting the
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space for your email is don't allow it to fill your day. And I know there are people
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who have their email open and they're just responding all day. It's not efficient. You
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have more time in your inbox than you really need to. And it's distracting as well. And
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so yes, if you have one of those, you know, bells that ring when you know the Pavlov bell
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that rings when your email inbox comes in, I want you to consider turning it off. In
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fact, I want you to consider just closing your email inbox thing, just whatever your
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provider is just close it for the day. Just don't don't open it until you're ready.
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Make email a part of your business, right? It's like it's on my schedule. It's on my
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list of things to do for the day. This is the time in which I address email. This is
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really important. This is the time in which I address email. So don't let email just take
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over your day and you're responding to email in the morning and then the afternoon and
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then the evening and then the middle of the night. I know people do that. And I want to
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bet you that you have mentors who do that. I want to bet that you have people that you
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really respect who are just in the email inbox all day. But I want to invite you to think
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about your email inbox is one of your activities for which you create space, you address and
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you're done. Because you know what email will be there tomorrow. And one of the great things
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about your email inbox is that any email that accumulates will wait for you. Like it's not
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a disappearing messages thing. It will wait for you. It'll still be there. And maybe you're
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like, no, I don't want I don't want anybody to send me an email and I'm not looking like
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I'm responsive. Again, I want I want you to calm down if you're feeling that way. And
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I, I sense the anxiety that's related to that. Sometimes there's this feeling like if you
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don't respond, people think you're not working. Again, it's so important to clarify how do
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you create value for your organization to so important. Because when you understand
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how you create value, if anybody's like you didn't respond to my email within 20 minutes,
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you need to have a conversation with that person if they're important enough in your
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ecosystem to say, Hey, I just want to clarify how I create value for this organization.
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me create that. Right? You need to have those conversations that there are people who are
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yelling at you are upset at you in any way, because you're not that responsive. You do
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need to have conversations with them about how you create value and what time is needed
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to create the value that they respect, or the value for which you are paid. And so if
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anybody has an expectation that you're going to respond to emails within 15 minutes as
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evidence of productivity, I want you to think about that person. If they're valuable enough
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in your ecosystem, have a conversation about your new strategy, and how you're going to
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do things from now on so that you can create the value they most love the value that they
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most appreciate. And if they say, Hey, that's not what I value. If you're an administration,
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maybe that's what's valued. But the important thing is to clarify it, put it on your schedule
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so you can limit its encroachment into your entire life. Okay, that's number three, limit
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the space for email. Number four, when you do go into your inbox, prioritize the 20%
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I'm big on this, this whole thing of like, what are you going to respond to that gives
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you the maximum bang for your buck? Invariably in your email inbox is the you know, funny
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cat video, somehow your name gone on that, that mailing list and you get the funny cat
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video, you might get the Oh, here's what's happening on campus in the coming year. These
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are great emails and please, who doesn't love a funny cat video and who doesn't love to
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know what's happening on campus? When you go into your email inbox, these are not your
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top 20%. They're not. And if you did number three, where you're limiting the space for
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your email, you may have 30 minutes on your calendar to process email. So you want to
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go to the email that's most important, scan your inbox and say, Oh, I got an email from
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the editor of the journal about the journal that I submitted. That's kind of like a 20%
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email. I would address that first. And okay, maybe there's an email inbox about you know,
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a patient chart that you haven't closed. That's kind of like the 20% of your clinical. Okay,
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I would address that. You know, so you know, I don't need to tell you but what I'm saying
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is that don't just process your email from top to bottom. If you have time, okay, maybe
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you do that. Sometimes I like to do that because I like to go from the beginning to the end.
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But when I when I have a minimum amount of time and I recognize that's like, I'm not
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going to be done with this in 30 minutes or 15 minutes, however many much time I, I have
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allotted to the email on my schedule that day, I go through and I prioritize the 20%.
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I get them answered and I get them done. If there's if it's an email that can be responded
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to right away, I responded to it right away. If it's an email, it's going to take time
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or I really need to think about the response. I will I will create a time for it on my calendar,
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but more about that a little bit later. I want to I'm going to talk about that a little
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bit later. But I do want to remind you, I'm talking about focusing on the 20% of your
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email inbox, start with the things that are most important and knock them out. And then
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if the time comes where it's like, oh, it's been 30 minutes and there's still 50 emails
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left to process. You can feel confident you've addressed the most important and you can exit
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your inbox for that time, knowing that you can come back later to address the things
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that are not so important, but not so critical. Now should every email be responded to actually
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that's that's an important question. Every email doesn't require response for the emails
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that require response, you do want to respond, they may not be that critical. And so you
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can take your time to respond. But definitely when it comes to your email inbox, when you
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open it be very clear about the 20% and create that 20%. Okay, I mean, create that value
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in your email inbox. Don't let don't don't treat every email the same, right? Don't say,
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you know, I've got to respond to all 40 all 40 are equally important, you know, they're
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not. And so prioritize the ones that are important. Okay, number five is to keep your responses
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short. Okay, this is really important. It took me so many years to learn this. I just
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want to just, you know, emphasize the importance of keeping email responses short. Now there
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are some emails to which the responses cannot be short. That is the clue that it is not
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an email, it should be a meeting. And somebody sends you an email, you're like, Oh, no, I've
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got to make point number one, and then point number two, point number four, point number
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five, point number eight, point number 20. Oh, it's like, okay, okay, clearly, maybe
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it's not an email. Maybe this really should be a conversation. And if you if you recall,
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many of these emails are emails that either you're so mad, you're so upset, there's emotion
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behind an email that's 20, you know, 20 paragraphs long, there's real emotion there. You have
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to recognize that if it's getting if it's getting long, that should be a conversation
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happening, it should not be in the email inbox. So I want to encourage you to think if you
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start to respond to an email, and you're you have three paragraphs, stop and say, should
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this be an email or should this be a meeting? So my my encouragement to you and again, point
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number five is keep responses short. So you know, email is a mode of communication, but
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it's not the only mode of communication. Keep the responses short, hey, we're looking for
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providers, we're going to take an extra day of call this week, because suddenly somebody's
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not available to take call, say, yes, I'm available to do it on Friday at 10. On Friday,
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I can do I can do call from, you know, 8am to noon. Or you say no, I do not have space
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on my calendar to do this. Keep it short and sweet. Now, if you're writing, hey, I really
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want to do this. But you know, Friday is like the only day that I have for my administrative
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day. And I already have a meeting scheduled at my children's daycare. And then I have
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the appointment with my eye doctor, not been able to create this eye doctor appointment
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for so long. And then after that, I've scheduled time for like myself massage therapy, and
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I don't want to really cancel it. I know the call needs to happen. But wow, too much information.
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Oh, the email is getting too long. And who needs all that information anyway? Please
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not do it. If that's what you do spend a lot of time explaining, please don't just say
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yes, I can do it at this time or say no, I'm unavailable. No is a really short sentence.
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People say you can just say, Oh, be done. I say, say no and say I'm not available or
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you can say no, I wish I could say no. Add like a sentence to soften the blow of the
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no and be done. Don't spend time explaining. Your job in life is not to explain yourself
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to anybody. Because you know, to be honest, how many explanations do you believe anyway?
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Really, you believe none of them. And if you really want an explanation, you pick up the
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phone or you page someone and say, Hey, can I understand why you're not available? That's
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great. Have a conversation outside your inbox, but your inbox is not really the place where
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you explain yourself. Keep answers short and pithy and sweet. And again, I'm just talking
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about the things that have worked for me. And I would love for you to share about the
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things that work for you. But short emails are helpful because they help me recognize
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if an email is becoming long, probably a conversation needs to happen. All right. Number six, create
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rules for junk. Okay, create rules for junk. What does that mean? You get so much junk
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coming into your email inbox. If you have been in your faculty position for more than
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a year, wow, the number of things for which I don't even know how you get on those mailing
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lists, but you clearly do. You get a lot of things that are junky. And to be honest, there's
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like a list of emails you get that are kind of recurrent. And so create rules. I love
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the outlook. And that's my email manager, you know, the rules for create for addressing
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junk. And so I'll say, okay, sweep any message from this provider. And you know, it'll come
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up like there's a sweep icon. And it says, and then I can, I can set the rule for how
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to handle this email in the future. I'll say this email and future emails should go to
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deleted items right away. This email and future items should go to newsletters because sometimes
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I do appreciate the newsletters that come from my society. And once in a while, I don't
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mind reading them. I just don't want them in my inbox. And so I'll create rules to send
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them to my newsletter folder. Those are the two rules that I have for everything else.
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at like addressing something as junk doesn't always work. And so I'm very clear about the
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any emails from this email address should go to deleted items right away. And that helps
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me it helps me declutter the number of things that come into my inbox so that at least most
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of the things that are there are things that are important. Now, clearly a lot of things
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pass through the filter. And so I'm very focused the day I have time for email. And I can do
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more than just the 20% any email I see that I'm like, Oh, I don't want this in my inbox.
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I think instead of just deleting it, I'm going to create a rule to make sure it permanently
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doesn't come in again. And you'll find that that does decrease the bulk of the emails
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that you have. And I recommend that. Okay, create rules for junk. That's number six.
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Number seven is schedule anything that cannot be responded to immediately for everything
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else respond and archive immediately. Okay, that's long. What I'm saying is that there
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are some emails that are not just it's not just a yes or no response. They're asking
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when can you meet for this important thing after which you've after which you've reviewed
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the paper, right? Well, that's like three things. It's like, well, I need to tell you
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when I'm available. So I need to check my calendar and check my schedule. I also need
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to read this paper. Great after schedule time to read this paper. And, and then I need to
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I need to respond to my availability. So the three things that need to happen, that's going
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to take probably more than 10 minutes to respond to, right? I think those gosh, I think I've
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heard the rule of twos, like if it takes you more than two minutes to handle this email,
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then you should schedule it. And so schedule the email, put it on your calendar. And it's
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important because there are a number of things that need to happen for this email to be responded
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to. It's not just an email you can you can just address right away. So schedule it, put
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it on your calendar. So the deadline for this response to the email, they tell you is March
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15. Perfect. Put it on your calendar for March 14. And put it on your calendar, like actually
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create an appointment for that email on your calendar. And think about it, I need 30 minutes
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to review this article, make comments, and then clarify when I'm available to meet, put
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it on your calendar for 30 minutes. The great thing about putting it on your calendar for
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a day before the deadline is that deadlines force action. Like you could spend two hours
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reading that calendar that that that article, you could spend two hours and you can spend
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you can spend three days. But if it's due, then you're going to more likely compress
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the time and say it's due, I need to do this right away. I do this honestly, for my grant
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review. So when I have a grant review responsibilities, and they tell me that, oh, the grant deadline
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is, you know, on Monday, October 9, yes, I will see how many grants do I need to review?
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How long how, what's the reasonable expectation for how much time should be spent reviewing
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these grants? And then I put them on the calendar for close to the deadline. And that means
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I don't spend more time reviewing than I absolutely need to. It does mean sometimes I, you know,
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sometimes you underestimate and then it's like, okay, great. Noted for next time, I
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need more time. But deadlines force action. And so I use deadlines to my advantage. I
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schedule any email that needs more time to be responded to, I schedule it close to the
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deadline for the response. And if there's no deadline set in the email, I create my
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own deadline. I say it's reasonable for me to respond to this email within the next 48
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hours. Actually, most of these emails that need work, I will ever respond to them next
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week, I'll put them on my calendar for the following week, and I'll do that. And it allows
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me to set aside time for them. As soon as I've scheduled it and put it on the calendar,
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I clear it from my inbox, I archive it. That means it's been addressed, or it's going
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to be addressed in the future and no longer sits in my inbox. And I'll tell you one hack
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that I do, and this is something I do probably about once a week is I'll go to inbox zero,
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I absolutely will. I will set aside a time where I'm like, my goal is to process to inbox
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zero. Now I've been doing this for a while. So I'm not processing 3000 emails to inbox
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zero, I guess I did that a few years ago. But I do that now. I'm like, you know, it
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may be Thursday, I'm like, I'm processing to inbox zero. And anything that is going
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to take a little bit of time, I schedule in the future on my calendar, and then I archive
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the email, and everything else that can be responded to, I respond right away, everything
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else gets deleted, right? And so I'm able to do that. And it helps me because I feel
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like, okay, I've done this, and now I have at least 24 hours before I really need to
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look in the in the email inbox and see what needs to be done. All right, I've shared a
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lot of things with you today, I'm going to just summarize everything. Number one, recognize
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how you create value. Number two, master your 20%. And the three limit the space for email.
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rules for junk. Number seven, schedule tasks that take a little bit more time and archive
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everything so that as long as as soon as you scheduled it, it's archived. All right, those
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are some of the ideas I have for managing email, I'm interested to hear how you manage
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email. And I'd love for you to share about it. And I want to share that, you know, at
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the end of the day, this really is about being strategic and intentional, you're the way
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the strategies you use are not as important as the fact that you use strategies that you're
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not just a passive consumer of email, that email somehow is taking over your life. All
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right, I'm excited to talk to you today about the email inbox, you know, a mentee, you
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know, a colleague, you know, a mentor, maybe, who needs to listen to this and share with
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their networks. And I invite you to share this episode widely. Thank you so much for
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listening today. It's been a pleasure to talk with you. I look forward to talking with you
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again on the next episode of the clinician researcher podcast.